Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Subterranea (comics)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe#Regions and countries. Anyone feeling there is a need to merge any content can do so. Stifle (talk) 09:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Subterranea (comics)

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Article is WP:SYNTH of primary sources and does not pass WP:NOTPLOT. If you were to remove the WP:OR comparing the different storylines in different comics, there would be nothing left. A search shows only passing mentions and plot details without any WP:SIGCOV in independent sources. At most, those passing mentions can be summarized at an article that meets Wikipedia guidelines. Jontesta (talk) 19:30, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Comics and animation. Jontesta (talk) 19:30, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (as creator, many years ago). This is a major location in Marvel Comics, similar to Genosha and Latveria. I do agree that it hasn't been properly sourced, though, and could benefit from a fair amount of work.--Mike Selinker (talk) 19:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Features of the Marvel Universe. This topic isn't independently notable, but it's notable within the fiction and a brief summary of it on this list would be useful to readers. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:28, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Which part do you believe should be merged? Joyous! | Talk 22:16, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe#Regions and countries - The current article is entirely in-universe plot summary, without a single bit of real world information or analysis, and is sourced entirely to primary sources. Searching for additional sources actually turns up very little - there are the usual mentions in comic plot summaries and entries in official Marvel guidebooks, but I am not seeing any kind of discussion beyond that in reliable sources. It does already have an entry at the Features of the Marvel Universe article, so a Redirect would make sense, but I am not seeing anything that should actually be merged. Rorshacma (talk) 16:32, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mike Selinker and addition of new sources, or at worst merge as per above. BOZ (talk) 22:49, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe#Regions and countries; the reception section is pathethic, no sources have been presented here. WP:FANCRUFT that fails WP:GNG. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:55, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the claims that have been made out by @Mike Selinker: and @BOZ:. To the closer if the outcome is merge, I ask that you forward the information of the Subterraneans to another page that would talk about them like Hidden races. We have to have even the bios of the Moloids somewhere on this website. --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe#Regions and countries, at best a very short, sourced selective merging. Poorly sourced, written in an in-universe perspective, definitely an example of WP:FANCRUFT. The non-primary sources are undesirable: Screen Rant is marginally reliable per WP:RSP, CBR is also not generally reliable per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 379#Is Comic Book Resources a reliable source?, the coverage are also routine listicles or short mentions. Gizmodo is another listicle entry too short to be WP:SIGCOV, same with The Gamer- another listicle. My WP:BEFORE did not find sources covering this that meets WP:SIGCOV, merely listicles and mentions. Therefore, this fails WP:GNG. VickKiang (talk) 08:56, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.